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OPINION: Neo-Cons, Neo-Nazis And Neo-McVeighs Crash Ron Paul’s Tea Party

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The Tea Party, which started off as a Libertarian protest against taxes and government, has turned into a right wing, corporate sponsored, racist hate-fest. Three groups have joined the Libertarian founders of the Tea Party movement to add money, racism, hatred and conspiracy theory based paranoia to the Tea Pot.

The first group is the Neo-Cons. The same people behind the Bush administration have decided to use the Tea Party movement to put the Republicans back in power. They are doing this, using the former mouthpieces for the Bush White House, Fox News, Rush Limbaugh and conservative radio.

Neo-Cons like Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin have had prominent roles speaking at Tea Party events, and Neo-Con pundits, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck have been prominent cheerleaders for the movement.

Tea Parties are funded by FreedomWorks, which is run by Dick Armey. Armey is the author for the contract for America and was house majority leader for the Republicans during the nineties. He worked closely with Tom Delay and Newt Gingrich in congress.

The Neo-Con infiltration of the Tea Party is also known as astro-turfing. When well-funded political insiders try and pass off a well-orchestrated political movement funded by lobbyists as a grass roots, people’s movement it is called “astro-turing” (fake grass-roots).

The next group that has managed to infiltrate the tea party has been the Neo-Nazis. The white nationalists have seen the anger over a Black President and the mostly white make up of the tea party protesters and have decided to use the Tea Parties as a vehicle to spout their racist views and recruit new members.

Neo-Nazis speak openly about their involvement and support for the Tea Party movement on the White Supremacist Site, Stormfront. Here are some quotes from white supremacists regarding Tea Party events.

One thing I noticed about the Tea Party crowds is that they are 99% WHITE!
These are my people and they are your people as well. Just because they haven’t fully awakened doesn’t mean that they are our enemy. The polls on these people is that they do not support any (R) or (D) candidate, but instead support the person who is more constitutional.
My suggestion to all you do-nothings is that you join your local Tea-Party at make changes from within instead of criticizing from the outside. I love my fellow white neighbor and deep down these good Tea-partying white folks want the the basic same freedoms and rights as we all do. I say we establish ourselves in there before the filthy frikin joos do.

I don’t give 2 ****s about the RINO’s or the libs but the majority of the tea party people I’ve met are now at least willing to listen to the WN viewpoint. I’ve converted several of them (especially on the Jew issue) and the immigration issue is a no brainer.

I’ve attended a few of the Tea Party gatherings and have found quite a few racially aware folks in attendance. I use these gatherings to wake folks up to the ‘Jew’ problem in this country with many leaving say “Hmmm” and following up with me via email for further mentoring on the subject.There are people I met during the Ron Paul campaign who were “clowns”, and now are active White Nationalists. I’m not willing to pass up any opportunity I have to make more of them. It only takes me a few minutes a day to make either subtle or blatant racially-aware posts on forums filled with Tea Partyers. If I make even one new White Nationalist, it was worth it.

After a Neo-Nazi caused controversy by pulling out a Hitler flag at a Tea Party event, Neo-Nazis began commenting on Stormfront that White Nationalists should not use their Hitler and Swastika flags for fear of scaring off potential White Nationalist recruits because the Jews have sullied the image of their proud Fuehrer and the Swastika and instead should use Confederate Flags and “Don’t Tread On Me” shirts.

The Tea Party’s founder, Ron Paul has his own problem with white supremacist and Neo-Nazi supporters. Paul has received extensive support from Stormfront and other Neo-Nazi groups and has yet to distance himself from these Nazis groups, even taking a picture with Stormfront founder, Don Black and his son Derek. (see above picture)

Bill White, the commander of the Nazi group, has alleged that Paul’s ties to neo-Nazi groups are deeper than campaign contributions and photographs.

I am compelled to tell the truth about Ron Paul’s extensive involvement in white nationalism.

Both Congressman Paul and his aides regularly meet with members of the Stormfront set, American Renaissance, the Institute for Historic Review, and others at the Tara Thai restaurant in Arlington, Virginia

Paul is a white nationalist of the Stormfront type who has always kept his racial views and his views about world Judaism quiet because of his political position.

The last and perhaps most dangerous group to crash the Tea Party is the Neo-McVeighs. This group subscribes to many Neo-Con talking points and many members of this group subscribe to neo-Nazi beliefs but the Neo-McCveighs are characterized by militia based anger, a fierce devotion to high powered weapons an a strong belief in anti-government conspiracy theories. Another term for the Neo-McVegihs is the “patriot” movement.

The Neo-McVeighs believe in a New World Order conspiracy of a secret society that will turn the world into a one world socialist government while setting up concentration camps for dissenters and taking away the guns of true patriots in the USA.

Many of the Neo-Cons have adopted Neo-McVeigh code words to incite paranoia in the Tea Party. Sarah Palin has spoken about death panels, Glenn Beck has discussed FEMA concentration camps on his show and Pat Buchanan has openly talked about the New World Order, saying:

The West is disappearing into a New World Order, and against globalism, the Tea Party folks may represent our last best hope.

Right Wing Christian fundamentalist, Pat Robertson wrote a book the New World Order which was based on the Jewish/Mason conspiracy to take over the world.

One example of the Neo-McVeighs are the Oathkeepers, a group of militia based ex-military and policemen who have taken an oaths to not cooperate in the “New World Order.” One prominent Oathkeeper, Charles Dyer was recently arrested and charged with raping a seven-year-old girl. Authorities found a grenade launcher and explosives residue in his apartment. Here’s a quote from Dyer on the New World Order.

They’re trying to bring in the new world order and destroy our sovereignty. That means they are the domestic enemy I swore to defend and fight against to defend my constitution. And, I’m willing to put my life on the line to defend this country. And, I’m asking anyone who’s taken the oath to do the same.

The Neo-McVeighs have very similar ideologies and backgrounds to their namesake, Timothy McVeigh, who was responsible for the largest domestic terrorist attack in U.S. history. They both use a lot of pro-constitution and pro-gun rhetoric, often come from a military background and they are extremely anti-government and paranoid about a new world order.

Both Newsweek and The New York Times both wrote pieces about the high level of New World Order conspiracy theorists and the paranoia and anger they are creating in the Tea Party, claiming that “the party movement is dominated by conspiracy kooks” and that Tea Party court jester, Glenn Beck “frequently echoes Patriot(Neo-McVeigh) rhetoric, discussing the possible arrival of a “New World Order” and arguing that Obama is using a strategy of manufactured crisis to destroy the economy and pave the way for dictatorship.”

The Neo-Cons maybe creating a Frankenstein they cannot control with their constant funding and Fox News promotion of the Tea Party. The Neo-Nazis and Neo-McVeighs hold Neo-Cons in the same contempt as they hold the government. The Neo-Cons have tried to say the protests are against taxes, which is unlikely given that Obama has only proposed raising taxes on the riches one percent, which only applies to the Neo-Cons themselves not their followers and the Neo-Nazis and Neo-McVeighs.

The Neo-Cons differ greatly with the Libertarians, Neo-Nazis and Neo-McVeighs on foreign policy. While Neo-Cons strongly support Israel, believe in continuing the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and starting a war with Iran, the Libertarians, Neo-Nazis and Neo-McVeighs are anti-Israel and against foreign wars.

The Libertarians have begun to speak out against the Neo-Cons. Will they speak out against the Neo-Nazis and the Neo-McVeighs? Will the Neo-Cons address the New World Order paranoia they are putting into the Teabaggers heads? Will anyone in the Tea Party stand up to the both blatant and subtle racism that the Ne0-Nazis and regular old racists are bringing to the Tea Party? Will the Neo-McVeighs turn on their Neo-Cons sponsors or create another Oklahoma City massacre? Is there any voice of reason in the Tea Party at all? If so I’d like to hear from them.


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 Post subject: Re: OPINION: Neo-Cons, Neo-Nazis And Neo-McVeighs Crash Ron Paul
PostPosted: 02/22/10 05:09:43 PM 
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what i want to know...other than black planet...any other news network aware of this shit cause ron paul was celebrated like the new nominee..


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 Post subject: Re: OPINION: Neo-Cons, Neo-Nazis And Neo-McVeighs Crash Ron Paul
PostPosted: 03/28/10 10:08:53 AM 
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what i want to know...other than black planet...any other news network aware of this shit cause ron paul was celebrated like the new nominee..



dont worry, this is a bit sensationalized. I was at the first major "tea party" thrown by Ron Paul July 12, 2008, in D.C. Ron Paul, and his supporters can be described as the peaceful wing of the United States, and are most likely the highest percentage of "color blind," of any in America.

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Members of the KKK, members of the Islamic faith, members of the Christian church, members the African American community, People of no religious affiliation, Hippies, Nomads, members of the Mormon Church, Neo-Nazi's, Members of the Jewish Community, Atheist's, and those odd Zendik Farm people...

They all voted for Ron Paul, because Ron Paul supports less government regulation over the individual, not because he is a "racist." I have heard Dr. Paul argue that racism is battled through education, and that laws just make it illegal to practice racism rather then actually ending it. He thinks of laws as a band-aid, rather then a healer. It is more or less his philosophy on how to combat racism that some people do not like.

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 Post subject: Re: OPINION: Neo-Cons, Neo-Nazis And Neo-McVeighs Crash Ron Paul
PostPosted: 03/28/10 10:54:53 AM 
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b.p. wrote:
what i want to know...other than black planet...any other news network aware of this shit cause ron paul was celebrated like the new nominee..



dont worry, this is a bit sensationalized. I was at the first major "tea party" thrown by Ron Paul July 12, 2008, in D.C. Ron Paul, and his supporters can be described as the peaceful wing of the United States, and are most likely the highest percentage of "color blind," of any in America.


'Tea party' protesters accused of spitting on lawmaker, using slurs

Members of the Congressional Black Caucus said that racial epithets were hurled at them Saturday by angry protesters who had gathered at the Capitol to protest health-care legislation, and one congressman said he was spit upon. The most high-profile openly gay congressman, Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.), was heckled with anti-gay chants.

Rep. Emanuel Cleaver (D-Mo.) issued a statement late Saturday saying that he was spit upon while walking to the Capitol to cast a vote, leading the Capitol Police to usher him into the building out of concern for his safety. Police detained the individual, who was then released because Cleaver declined to press charges.

"The congressman was walking into the Capitol to vote, when one protester spat on him. The congressman would like to thank the U.S. Capitol Police officer who quickly escorted the other Members and him into the Capitol, and defused the tense situation with professionalism and care," said Danny Rotert, a spokesman for Cleaver.

Protesters outside the Capitol hurled epithets at Reps. John Lewis (D-Ga.) and Andre Carson (D-Ind.) as they left the building after President Obama delivered an 11th-hour speech on behalf of the health care bill. Carson told reporters that protesters yelled "kill the bill," then used a racial epithet to describe Carson and Lewis, who is a revered figure on both sides of the aisle.

According to observers, Frank was confronted by about 100 protesters inside the Longworth House Office Building, where Democrats were huddling for another meeting about the legislation. Some targeted Frank with anti-gay epithets and urged him to vote against the bill.

Democratic leaders and their aides said they were outraged by the day's behavior. "I have heard things today that I have not heard since March 15, 1960, when I was marching to get off the back of the bus," said House Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-S.C.), the highest-ranking black official in Congress.

And Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer (D-Md.) said in a statement, "On the one hand, I am saddened that America's debate on health care -- which could have been a national conversation of substance and respect -- has degenerated to the point of such anger and incivility. But on the other, I know that every step toward a more just America has aroused similar hate in its own time; and I know that John Lewis, a hero of the civil rights movement, has learned to wear the worst slurs as a badge of honor."

"This is not the first time the congressman has been called the "n" word and certainly not the worst assault he has endured in his years fighting for equal rights for all Americans," said Rotert, Cleaver's spokesman. "That being said, he is disappointed that in the 21st century our national discourse has devolved to the point of name-calling and spitting."

The incidents followed a noontime protest on the west side of the Capitol that drew several thousand people from around the country for a "Code Red" rally against the health-care bill. Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) addressed the crowd.

As that rally ended, some protesters moved around to the south side of the Capitol, near the entrance to the House chamber, and across the east front of the complex.

On the first day of spring, most lawmakers walked across the street from their office buildings to the Capitol, rather than using the underground tunnels. That brought them into contact with protesters forming a gauntlet on each side of the walkway leading into the House. At one point, when Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer (D-Md.) wanted to walk across the street to an office building, he was ushered into a car by his security detail and driven a couple hundred feet through the screaming crowd.

Saturday evening, more than a handful of House Republicans held an impromptu rally on the Capitol steps. Using a megaphone, the lawmakers urged on the crowd. Shortly after 6 p.m., Rep. Ted Poe (R-Tex.) dared House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) to come out onto the House steps and address the more than 1,000 people who were gathered at the foot of the Capitol, prompting a loud and angry chant of "Nancy, Nancy, Nancy."

The protesters believe that the Obama administration and Congress are ignoring the public's opposition to the $940 billion legislation, which they consider it to be a government takeover of the health-care system. They carried signs saying "Remember in November"; one carried a broomstick with cardboard pasted onto it with the label "Here's Your Ride," for Pelosi.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/20/AR2010032002556.html

N-Word Yelled at Congressman by Tea-Party Protestors

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsCL6cxbJqk

Black Congressman Recieved Faxes Of Noose After Health Care Vote

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677//vp/35994053#35994053

Lawmakers harassed; protesters had used racial epithets Saturday

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsCL6cxbJqk

sensationalized huh?

Naaaaaaaw, more like intolerance, and blantant racism getting exposed of the past 200 years.


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 Post subject: Re: OPINION: Neo-Cons, Neo-Nazis And Neo-McVeighs Crash Ron Paul
PostPosted: 03/28/10 11:39:27 AM 
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yeah, sensationalized.

I know from first hand experience that It was sensationalized. I was there.

What happens is this: a couple of people say something wrong, and the newscasters go absolutely nuts over it, and creating the fallacy of a hasty generalization, and explain to the public that "Look what the Protestors have done!" Well its true that "protestors," had committed this atrocity, however, it was probably 3 out of the 10, 000 people who were there. The spin, however, makes for interesting reading. Rather then saying, "3 of the so many protestors were racist, however that does not express the views the multitude," they put their political twist on it, regardless of truth, for the sake of ratings and political bias.

I bet you did not even know that 15 pro-healthcare reform bill student activists were arrested for becoming violent with peaceful anti-bill protestors.

More proof of this, is that the media never mentioned that some protestors were shouting that libertarians were members of the KKK and should move to Somalia. I was told I was a racist for being there.

Did you even know that there was a immigration reform protest in the midst of the anti-bill protest? No, you did not.

I will tell you why: Even though you may have your media sources in which you draw your facts. I will go out of my damn way to get a first hand experience of what is going on. This is where I draw my conclusions.

When Ron Paul threw his protest in DC, 12,000 people attended. The only media attention that the rally received was of 2 anarchists, running around waving flags that said "Fuck the Government," and "Mises Saves." The media spin of our RP Revolution Protest, was that we were running around saying Fuck the Government. Bullshit! Those two anarchists were arrested because Ron Paul protestors asked the police to get rid of them, as they were being vile in front of their children. This is the media for you, lies lies lies. You my friend, are a big contributor to propaganda on this message board.

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what ever you say...

...in the end, when memebers of the tea party and leaders of these parties were asked to denounce these incidents on any scale or degree...all they could do was beat around the simple statement of condemnation...so no, i don't believe your first hand conclusion is all the way truthful. I have seen and dealt with many bigots of all colors that won't admit their own races indescretions, yet quick to point out the flaws and mis-truths in others.


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what ever you say...

...in the end, when memebers of the tea party and leaders of these parties were asked to denounce these incidents on any scale or degree...all they could do was beat around the simple statement of condemnation...so no, i don't believe your first hand conclusion is all the way truthful. I have seen and dealt with many bigots of all colors that won't admit their own races indescretions, yet quick to point out the flaws and mis-truths in others.


Dont give me this.

I know you dont really know me, and that anyone can say anything to justify themselves, however, one thing that I will give you my word on, as an oath, is that I will have no part in anything racist.

As a second note, racism, real concrete racism, the hatred in a mans heart towards a man of a different color, emotionally disturbs me on a level that I will risk my life defending the innocent.

To break this down, in my character of who I am: if I was at this event, and I had heard anyone, no matter of how I might agree with their general political stances, use any type of hateful speech towards a persons color, it would have been over for me. I would have gotten locked up, or beaten the hell up. Either way, it would be ugly. These are not just my words, but my strongest beliefs in defending innocent men who are all children of God, made to be brothers on this planet. This is not radicalism to me, but justice.

I am being completely truthful with you, and I do not see it responsible or in my best interest to be less then truthful and lie. This being said:

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I have seen and dealt with many bigots of all colors that won't admit their own races indescretions, yet quick to point out the flaws and mis-truths in others.


Dont feed me this, im not at all like this and I hope any of my posts on this forum in my years here prove it. Again, go off your media, you can have it and believe it if you want. However, I will not go back on my word that I was there and I saw much different then what the media and dapriest will lead you to believe.

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PostPosted: 03/31/10 06:35:05 AM 
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WhiteMike wrote:
yeah, sensationalized.
You my friend, are a big contributor to propaganda on this message board.


No, what i am is a contributor of knowledge for the streets, and my music will be an extension of that


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likewise. However, I question some of your bias and media sources. However, the same can be said of me, and the rest of us for that matter.

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alright, mike..i'll take you up on your word. But, please understand that i am a little apprehensive with the involvment of the so called "libritarian" tea-party whose calls to "arms" (rallies) only demand the presence of Republicans, Independents, Neo-Conservatives, and other far right fringe groups.


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alright, mike..i'll take you up on your word. But, please understand that i am a little apprehensive with the involvment of the so called "libritarian" tea-party whose calls to "arms" (rallies) only demand the presence of Republicans, Independents, Neo-Conservatives, and other far right fringe groups.



Totally agree with you. In and of myself, of course, could probably be called "far right fringe," simply because I am a libertarian. In so many words, the tea party, fell out of the "tea party." I remember going to Ron Paul events and they were called "tea parties," and many people were mailing tea bags to Bush and senators/representatives. Eventually, Fox News began sensationalizing the movement after the elections, and we begin seeing mainstream "conservatives," attending. Alot of the people that attend the tea parties now, are the same people that called Ron Paul a cook.

Actually, last time I went to a "tea party," three Republican senators came out and everyone was going crazy. I was thinking, "these are the people I am against." The moment someone claims to have any ties to the democratic or republican parties, I become very very very skeptical, as of course... same fucking difference.

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alright, mike..i'll take you up on your word. But, please understand that i am a little apprehensive with the involvment of the so called "libritarian" tea-party whose calls to "arms" (rallies) only demand the presence of Republicans, Independents, Neo-Conservatives, and other far right fringe groups.



Totally agree with you. In and of myself, of course, could probably be called "far right fringe," simply because I am a libertarian. In so many words, the tea party, fell out of the "tea party." I remember going to Ron Paul events and they were called "tea parties," and many people were mailing tea bags to Bush and senators/representatives. Eventually, Fox News began sensationalizing the movement after the elections, and we begin seeing mainstream "conservatives," attending. Alot of the people that attend the tea parties now, are the same people that called Ron Paul a cook.

Actually, last time I went to a "tea party," three Republican senators came out and everyone was going crazy. I was thinking, "these are the people I am against." The moment someone claims to have any ties to the democratic or republican parties, I become very very very skeptical, as of course... same fucking difference.



Yeah, I've seen how Boehner and other members of the Republican party use the ire of Americans to rally their own numbers, but it is the responsibility of the entire Libritarians to lienate themselves from their B.S.

What's more, alot of the people among the tea partiers are business peope that feel that they health care is cutting into their profit. At the same time, when they were working for other peopl they enjoyed the benefits they are fighting against, they enjoyed the union representation thy are fighting against...i just believe that this is all hypocrisy to the nth degree.
And as you mentioned...where was the sensationalization when Bush outsourced the rest of our work to other nations, and allowed banks to play with people's money like a board game...There's too much for me to take in against these rallies to actually believe that their voice and opinions deserve to be heard.


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In the wake of Ron Paul's son being elected in kentucky and the Bullshit surrounding his own Personal views...I thought that this thread needs to be revived...so that no one forgets.


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