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Label : Nature Sounds (2005)
Production : Mathematics

1.Intro
2.C What I C ft. T-Slugz & Eyeslow (4)
3.Strawberries & Cream ft. Allah Real, Rebel INS, Rza & Ghostface (4)
4.Can I Rise ft. Hot Flames (4)
5.John 3:16 ft. Method Man & P.I. (4)
6.Winta Sno ft. Eyeslow, L.S. & Ali Vegas (4)
7.Two Shots Of Henny (ft. Buddah, Angie Neil, Hot Flames, Eyeslow, P.I. & Allah Real) (3)
8.Bullet Scar ft. T-Slugz (3,5)
9.Real Nillaz ft. Ghostface, Buddah, Eyeslow & Raekwon (4)
10.Coach Talk ft. Bald Head (3,5)
11.Rush ft. Method Man & Gza (4)
12.U.S.A. ft. Ghostface, Masta Killa, Todd, P.I., Eyeslow & Hot Flames (4)
13.Tommy ft. Allah Real, Eyeslow, Angie Neil & Bald Head (3,5)
14.Break That ft. Ol Dirty Bastard, Masta Killa & U-God (4)
15.Spot Lite ft. Meth, U-God, Inspectah Deck & Cappadonna (4)

Beats : 4
Lyrics : 3,5
Overall : 3,75

Remember when The Rza stepped down as the main producer for the Clan? Suddently less talented people like 4th Disciple, Arabian Knight and Tru Master started popping up and the results...didn't always meet peoples expectations. Go back a few years and I would put Allah Mathematics in the same group as those others guys; the Wu producers that tries hard to sound like Rza but often fails. After his debut album "Love, Hell or Right (Da ComeUp) i changed my mind though and this albums just further proves that Mathematic is one to watch closely in the years to come.

It sounds like he's trying hard not to sound like a Rza knockoff but in the end he ends up creating an album that sounds very much like a Wu album but without the occational weak offferings of his former mentor. This is in fact the best Wu album to be released in years (not counting the Ghostface/Gza albums).

So while the production is top notch the lyrics/MCs aren't always as good as the beats. Needless to say the original Wu members do damage (especially ODB on "Break That") but the rest of the MCs are often uninspiring to listen to (and it's impossible to tell them apart since they all sound very much the same). When they are by themselves the results are decent but paired with Ghostface on "U.S.A" and Ghost & Rae on "Real Nillaz" they fail miserably (and why has Ali Vegas yet to drop an album??!!??).

I hope his next album will be more Wu rappers and less Hot Flames and Eyeslow because then he'll have an amazing album on his hands.

http://www.nature-sounds.com

And just to add a little useless knowledge, Mathematics is the guy who created the WU logo and rumoured to beresponsible for the artwork on "Liguid Swords"

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excellent review..

3.678/5

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I dont think that 4th disciple and Tru master are less talented..

And this album will grow

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I dont think that 4th disciple and Tru master are less talented..


They have yet to prove otherwise imo. Sure the Killarmy albums are dope and Tru Master makes nice beats but they both sound too much like The Rza. They lack a sound of their own if you ask me.

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you seem to be missing out on a lot of their greatest material such as LA The Darkmans stuff and all their work on all the wu albums.

Ok i need a discography or something.

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I got to check this album...nice review


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The Peoples Champ wrote:
you seem to be missing out on a lot of their greatest material such as LA The Darkmans stuff and all their work on all the wu albums.

Ok i need a discography or something.


nah, I'm pretty sure I heard the majority of their work (everything from Sunz of Man to Cappadonna to WuTang to Killarmy) and I still think they sound like The Rza did in 97 (which isn't always a bad thing)

http://hiphop.discogs.com/

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Nice review I will be getting that cd soon. But Just to see where u guys are at i am going to rate the origal wu members(as an mc) from best to worst let me know if u agree.

1.Ghostface
2.Raekwon
3.Deck
4.Gza
5.rza
6.Masta killa
7.U-god
8.method man
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any1 who does not rate U-God last is not to be trusted


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Trigger happy wrote:
Nice review I will be getting that cd soon. But Just to see where u guys are at i am going to rate the origal wu members(as an mc) from best to worst let me know if u agree.

1.Ghostface
2.Raekwon
3.Deck
4.Gza
5.rza
6.Masta killa
7.U-god
8.method man
9.O.D.B(rip)




1) Inspectah Deck
2) GZA
3) Ghost Face Killah
4)RZA
5) METHODMAN
6) Raekwon
7) Masta Killa
8)Ol Dirty Bastard
9) U-God



Yes I do like Method Man more then Raekwon.


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Morten. wrote:
any1 who does not rate U-God last is not to be trusted


same goes for people who put odb last.

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