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PostPosted: 05/03/01 12:32:00 PM 
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i know the middle east topic has been talked about, but do you think it will be resolved? if so , when? and how? let me know...

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PostPosted: 02/21/08 09:52:34 AM 
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What do you think of Obadiah Shoher's views on the Middle East conflict? One can argue, of course, that Shoher is ultra-right, but his followers are far from being a marginal group. Also, he rejects Jewish moralistic reasoning - that's alone is highly unusual for the Israeli right. And he is very influential here in Israel. So what do you think? uh, here's the site in question: Middle East conflict


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 Post subject: Re: will the middle east conflict be resolved
PostPosted: 02/21/08 04:08:58 PM 
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well ... the middle east conflict can no longer be determined to mean only isreal and palestine..... the conflict goes much further than that... so specifically ? which conflict of the middle east do you speak of?

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PostPosted: 02/24/08 07:54:03 AM 
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the middle east conflict will be resolved when you get a decent human being in the white house, who can accept who the Palestinian people vote as there representative an put authentic pressure on the Israeli goverment to come to the negotiating table with the Palestinians as equal human beings, thats were you will have no problems in the middle east, its the same wit Syria, Iran & Lebanon, the US president an the Israeli goverments need to stop seeing these country's through imperialist eyes an see them as equal human beings too, then you won't have problems in the middle east.

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 Post subject: Re: will the middle east conflict be resolved
PostPosted: 03/11/08 12:10:23 PM 
there will never be peace in the middle east.sure the whole Iraq deal MIGHT be resolved in the next 20 years but as far as the Israeli- Palestinian conflict goes, the jews are not gonna stop fucking them people out of their land.if people only know that christ was a Muslim......


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PostPosted: 09/26/08 08:35:24 PM 
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actually jesus was the prophet of God, and introduced the fundements of christianity. which till the time of his death was a valid religion... but soon after his demise ....man added to the book...or more so (it is said satan did so in attempt to derrail humanity from the path) . at that particular time islam did not exist ..... and it is also stated that (God) Allah sent down the quran with a message saying that no word would be changed from the quran... and this is my understanding of the islamic beliefs..... but it is difficult to convince one of something other than that of which they were brung up into most of the times.... it's only logical... and plus religion is not a very hot topic ..... it will start alot of arguments

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 Post subject: Re: will the middle east conflict be resolved
PostPosted: 09/28/08 07:26:31 PM 
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Not for as long as Israel still exists, fighting and killing over a land that never belonged to them. Even their own history verifies this.

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PostPosted: 09/29/08 12:17:32 AM 
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Come on guys, you have to know the bible better than that!

First of all..........the only way that the "Christians.." or "Believers" (almost being completely different religions... yet both having Christ as their messiah..) could EVER believe that Yeshua (Jesus) was the Moshiach (Messiah,) is that he is of the tribe of Judah (The tribe that all of Judaism is named after...even though there are 12 tribes, within this monotheistic religion, which actually holds no name according to the Tanakh (Old Testament to Christians/Believers/Messianics,) yet revolved/revolves around "The Law of God..")

So we can safely say that Yeshua (Jesus) is Jewish, as he was in fact a member of the tribe of Judah... and we also know that he was a descendant of King David (according to Christian/Believer/ and Messianic doctrine..)

The Hebrews and the Jews are actually completely different.....to be called a "Jew" is to call yourself of the Tribe of Judah. To say all Hebrews are Jews is a fallacy, to say all Jews are Hebrews is historically accurate........however, not necessarily genealogically accurate....as we all know most white "Jews" are from the Kazars (not hebrew, but proselyte/converts,) and "Jews" are black and Arabic looking... and a slight minority are of whiter/olive complexion.

The Hebrews were given the land of Canaan (according to God..).....which is Israel/Palestine today.

Also, Many Palestinians, are Sephardic Jews (black/arabic looking.....yet not Arabic in actuality... because they are Hebrew,) that adopted Muslim beliefs, during exhile. Nigerian Hebrews, Ethiopian Hebrews, Iranian Hebrews, Babylonian/Iraqi Hebrews, Tunisian Hebrews, Yemen Hebrews ..etc...(all black or looking Arabic..) are "Jewish", yet adopted Islam, during the Islamic Crusades.

Many Middle Eastern/African Muslims will tell you that their ancestors were Jewish and during exhile they converted to Islam.

The fact that Palestinians are majority-wise Muslim.... actually has nothing to do with Hebrews not having any right to the land........as many Muslims claim there right to the land.....based off of the Bible, and their Hebrew lineage.

So to say that "Jews" must leave Israel/Palestine.......is only 50% accurate.

I think you mean to say "Zionists, should leave Israel," as many Hebrew Jews (still practicing "Judaism") have lived in Israel/Palestine........ever since the time of their exile from Egypt...which is way way way way way way way...before Zionist Israel..or America altogether for that fact, was ever in existence.

This is the non-propaganda version of a part of Hebrew/Islamic history.

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If you were in fact going to say that the Hebrews NEVER in fact owned Palestine, than that is to say, that the Muslims never owned it either... as without Hebrews, there is no Islam, or Christianity/Messianic beliefs. It is also fact, that the Europeans/Asians/Africans all wrote during the middle ages, about the peculiarity of the Hebrews/"Jews" and their strange cities in Israel/Palestine.

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 Post subject: Re: will the middle east conflict be resolved
PostPosted: 09/29/08 12:19:25 AM 
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PhenomeShaun wrote:
Not for as long as Israel still exists, fighting and killing over a land that never belonged to them. Even their own history verifies this.


I say we give all the land to dinosours, it's hstorically righteously theirs...

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IM REPOSTING THIS...........out of the mere fact that it sucks to write this much, and not have anyone read it =D

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Come on guys, you have to know the bible better than that!

First of all..........the only way that the "Christians.." or "Believers" (almost being completely different religions... yet both having Christ as their messiah..) could EVER believe that Yeshua (Jesus) was the Moshiach (Messiah,) is that he is of the tribe of Judah (The tribe that all of Judaism is named after...even though there are 12 tribes, within this monotheistic religion, which actually holds no name according to the Tanakh (Old Testament to Christians/Believers/Messianics,) yet revolved/revolves around "The Law of God..")

So we can safely say that Yeshua (Jesus) is Jewish, as he was in fact a member of the tribe of Judah... and we also know that he was a descendant of King David (according to Christian/Believer/ and Messianic doctrine..)

The Hebrews and the Jews are actually completely different.....to be called a "Jew" is to call yourself of the Tribe of Judah. To say all Hebrews are Jews is a fallacy, to say all Jews are Hebrews is historically accurate........however, not necessarily genealogically accurate....as we all know most white "Jews" are from the Kazars (not hebrew, but proselyte/converts,) and "Jews" are black and Arabic looking... and a slight minority are of whiter/olive complexion.

The Hebrews were given the land of Canaan (according to God..).....which is Israel/Palestine today.

Also, Many Palestinians, are Sephardic Jews (black/arabic looking.....yet not Arabic in actuality... because they are Hebrew,) that adopted Muslim beliefs, during exhile. Nigerian Hebrews, Ethiopian Hebrews, Iranian Hebrews, Babylonian/Iraqi Hebrews, Tunisian Hebrews, Yemen Hebrews ..etc...(all black or looking Arabic..) are "Jewish", yet adopted Islam, during the Islamic Crusades.

Many Middle Eastern/African Muslims will tell you that their ancestors were Jewish and during exhile they converted to Islam.

The fact that Palestinians are majority-wise Muslim.... actually has nothing to do with Hebrews not having any right to the land........as many Muslims claim there right to the land.....based off of the Bible, and their Hebrew lineage.

So to say that "Jews" must leave Israel/Palestine.......is only 50% accurate.

I think you mean to say "Zionists, should leave Israel," as many Hebrew Jews (still practicing "Judaism") have lived in Israel/Palestine........ever since the time of their exile from Egypt...which is way way way way way way way...before Zionist Israel..or America altogether for that fact, was ever in existence.

This is the non-propaganda version of a part of Hebrew/Islamic history.

ps..

If you were in fact going to say that the Hebrews NEVER in fact owned Palestine, than that is to say, that the Muslims never owned it either... as without Hebrews, there is no Islam, or Christianity/Messianic beliefs. It is also fact, that the Europeans/Asians/Africans all wrote during the middle ages, about the peculiarity of the Hebrews/"Jews" and their strange cities in Israel/Palestine.

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i know the middle east topic has been talked about, but do you think it will be resolved? if so , when? and how? let me know...


As soon as all the idiots stop believing in their imaginary friends in the sky.

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......coming from the guy with Hitler on his profile.

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As soon as all the idiots stop believing in their imaginary friends in the sky.


...coming from the guy with Hitler in his profile.

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......coming from the guy with Hitler on his profile.


Huh? Does that make me a Nazi?

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either your a Nazi, or a watermelon supremist.

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